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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Just pitching in here - hope it's Ok,<br>
what they often do on private trackers with ratio is to give
hourly points based on <br>
how many torrents you are seeding (not based on speed) but based
on number of torrents you have active, <br>
and also allow to pay X for double points for X time, or simply
pay to get X GB added to your ratio.<br>
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This is often cheap, so for a user it's not a bad thing.<br>
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On 28.06.2013 12:33, til wrote:<br>
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<div>In relation to incentives, ostroms ideas, commons etc. i
wonder how this scales to a "global" level, these kind of
ideas seem to be conceived usually for a limited "group". My
feeling is, and this is mainly from BT Tracker experience,
that the ideas tend to fail if you have a VERY unequal
distribution of resources, like we have in the world right
now. some people are still connected to a non permanent ISDN
line which they spends shitload of money (relative to their
income) on, while others get 100mbit to their home for almost
nothing. thats how it is right now and i don't think it is
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<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family:
times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color:
transparent; font-style: normal;"> so if you translate that to
a "ratio" system that BT Trackers have, it doesnt work: people
with seedboxes, with superfast connections, snatch off all the
ratio, because the network will prefer to download from their
fast connection. so the ones that have slow connections will
never get a decent ratio, because it takes them the longest to
get a file and once they could seed back and gain ratio,
everyone else has the file already.<br>
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so i think the "incentives" for people to participate are kind
of difficult to define. unless you exclude people who are not
able to "give back" sufficiently to the grid, like storage node
uptime or connectivity, you will have a hard time
"automatically" creating fairness for the users of such a thing.
Or what do you imagine as an alternative system of "incentives"
for participants?<br>
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anyway, maybe there is more in ostroms writing on this, havent
got really into her book yet.<br>
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