[tahoe-dev] [tahoe-lafs] #778: "shares of happiness" is the wrong measure; "servers of happiness" is better

tahoe-lafs trac at allmydata.org
Sun Aug 16 20:46:04 PDT 2009


#778: "shares of happiness" is the wrong measure; "servers of happiness" is
better
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 Reporter:  zooko               |           Owner:           
     Type:  defect              |          Status:  new      
 Priority:  critical            |       Milestone:  undecided
Component:  code-peerselection  |         Version:  1.4.1    
 Keywords:  reliability         |   Launchpad_bug:           
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Comment(by kevan):

 Replying to [comment:17 zooko]:
 > Okay, I understand what you mean.  This hypothetical use case is in a
 sense the exact opposite of metacrob's.  He wants Tahoe-LAFS to give an
 error when there are only one or two storage servers, this other user
 would want Tahoe-LAFS to silently succeed in the same case.  If we
 implement {{{shares_of_happiness}}} as described so far in this ticket --
 with no special case and with no change to the upload peer selection
 algorithm -- then metacrob's use case will be satisfied by the default
 settings ({{{k=3, servers_of_happiness=7, m=10}}}), and the other use case
 would have to change their {{{k}}} and their {{{servers_of_happiness}}} to
 both be <= the number of servers that they actually have.  Is that right?

 Yes, exactly.

 > We could implement metacrob's use case right now without -- the
 "servers_of_happiness = dont_care" feature -- and then wait until we have
 more information about how it works, for example a bug report from someone
 who expected upload to work with the default parameters when they had only
 one or two servers.
 >
 > What do you think of that?

 That sounds fine.

 I'm also fine with setting the defaults to be {{{k = 3, m = 10, happy =
 7}}} -- it's pretty easy to change them if they end up being poor choices.

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Ticket URL: <http://allmydata.org/trac/tahoe/ticket/778#comment:18>
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