[tahoe-dev] [tahoe-lafs] #753: use longer storage index / cap for collision resistance

tahoe-lafs trac at allmydata.org
Fri Jul 10 02:41:24 PDT 2009


#753: use longer storage index / cap for collision resistance
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 Reporter:  warner         |           Owner:           
     Type:  defect         |          Status:  new      
 Priority:  major          |       Milestone:  undecided
Component:  code-encoding  |         Version:  1.4.1    
 Keywords:                 |   Launchpad_bug:           
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 As we work on new encoding schemes (like DSA-based mutable files), I'm
 thinking that we want to put a lower bound on the cap/SI length to
 maintain
 reasonable margin against collisions. 256 bits would be more than enough.
 128
 is ok, but a bit tight. 92 bits would make me nervous.

 robk's friend Sylvan expressed concerns about Tahoe (and mnet/mojonation
 before it) because, for something that is meant as a backup system, even
 the
 slightest possibility of the CHK-based indexing scheme mapping two
 documents
 to the same storage index was too high for him. (I believe he would be
 more satisfied with a scheme that used centrally-allocated guaranteed-
 unique
 storage indices, which we could do but would require more coordination and
 longer caps, since we could no longer use a randomly-generated readkey to
 derive the storage index. In exchange for a controllable but non-zero
 probability of collision, we get to avoid central coordination and use
 smaller caps).

 The specific places where collisions could occur are:

  * mapping from file contents to CHK-derived readkey
  * mapping from readkey (CHK-derived or randomly generated) to storage
 index
  * mapping from randomly-generated mutable writekey to storage index

 The "birthday paradox" determines the chance of collision. If I'm doing my
 math right, if you want less than '{{{p}}}' chance of getting any
 collisions
 when selecting items out of a namespace of size '{{{N}}}', then you can't
 select more than {{{C = sqrt(2*N*p)}}} items. This is called a "paradox"
 (where "surprise" would be a better term) because that square root causes
 C
 to be surprisingly low: for birthdays (in which N=365), p=0.5 leads to
 C=19.
 In the Tahoe context, {{{C}}} is the number of files you can add to the
 grid.

 In the current case, our 128-bit storage index (N=2**128) means that p=0.5
 gets us a nice large 2**64 number of files, except that p=0.5 is
 insufficient
 margin: we'd much prefer a vanishingly small chance of collision, like
 p=2**-64. Fortunately we get two bits of margin for every one bit we
 reduce
 from C. The table looks like:

 ||N||numfiles||prob(collision)||
 ||96||2**48||2**-1 (0.5)||
 ||96||2**40||2**-16||
 ||96||2**32||2**-32||
 ||96||2**24||2**-48||
 ||128||2**64||2**-1 (0.5)||
 ||128||2**56||2**-16||
 ||128||2**48||2**-32||
 ||128||2**32||2**-64||
 ||256||2**128||2**-1 (0.5)||
 ||256||2**96||2**-64||


 Note that our {{{N}}} is the minimum of the storage-index size and the
 top-most cap value (i.e. the readkey for immutable files, or the writekey
 for
 mutable files). So a DSA-based mutable file with a 92-bit writecap gives
 us
 an {{{N}}} of 2**92, even if it is expanded into a storage-index of 128 or
 256 bits.

 Also note that the allmydata.com grid currently has something like 10M
 objects in it, about C=2**23.

 So, I'm thinking that as much as a nice short 96-bit DSA mutable writecap
 would be nice, it's too short to provide enough collision margin. I want
 to
 be able to put trillions of files into a grid, and I want a the chance of
 collision to be so small that I don't ever need to worry about it, and 96
 bits isn't really there. 128 bits is probably good enough, but doesn't
 have
 enough margin to be obviously and unquestionably safe (C=2**32 is a lot of
 files but you can imagine people wanting more, p=2**-64 is a tiny
 probability
 but you can imagine people wanting a bit better). 256 would be plenty (but
 of
 course I want my filecaps to be shorter than that).

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Ticket URL: <http://allmydata.org/trac/tahoe/ticket/753>
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