[tahoe-dev] 100-year cryptography

Justin Stottlemyer justin.h.stottlemyer at gmail.com
Tue Mar 9 14:04:19 PST 2010


In 5 years you will have had to move an object at least once and can
re-encrypt at that time using the now faster CPU.  Additionally in 10 years,
how likely is it the data you are encrypting today is going to be very
poignant?

Speed is key to adoption.

-- Justin

Speed is

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Chris Palmer <chris at noncombatant.org> wrote:

> I sent this to Zooko privately, regarding his "100-year cryptography" blog
> post:
>
>
> http://testgrid.allmydata.org:3567/uri/URI:DIR2-RO:j74uhg25nwdpjpacl6rkat2yhm:kav7ijeft5h7r7rxdp5bgtlt3viv32yabqajkrdykozia5544jqa/wiki.html#[[can%20we%20build%20a%20crypto%20system%20to%20last%20for%20a%20hundred%20years%3F]]
>
> He asked if I would like to have the dialog in public, so here goes!
>
>
> ----- Forwarded message from Chris Palmer <chris at noncombatant.org> -----
>
> From: Chris Palmer <chris at noncombatant.org>
> To: zooko at zooko.com
> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 16:53:36 -0800
> Subject: 100-year cryptography
>
> Although SHA-512 is two orders of magnitude slower/more power-hungry on ARM
> than SHA-256, that is *now*. In 5 or 10 years, we are likely to have faster
> machines, machines with larger word sizes (even small/low-power machines),
> and/or better power supplies/batteries. In 5 or 10 years, we will be glad
> we
> used unnecessarily strong functions 5 or 10 years ago. For long-lived data
> at rest, skimping on security for performance is just a bad trade --- even
> though, yes, I fully agree that the performance concerns are real and
> critical.
>
> I feel certain that K = 128 is good, and pretty sure that SHA-512's K will
> be gnawed down to 128 or lower in the medium-term.
>
> By then, of course, we will have migrated to SHA-3, which will be faster
> and
> maybe even safer. If only we had SHA-3 now...
>
>
> ----- End forwarded message -----
> _______________________________________________
> tahoe-dev mailing list
> tahoe-dev at allmydata.org
> http://allmydata.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tahoe-dev
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://allmydata.org/pipermail/tahoe-dev/attachments/20100309/14343462/attachment.htm 


More information about the tahoe-dev mailing list