[tahoe-dev] How many servers can fail?
Terrell Russell
terrellrussell at gmail.com
Wed Oct 26 15:14:49 UTC 2011
R could be for Reconstruction
but also
Recovery
On 10/26/11 10:00 AM, Greg Troxel wrote:
>
> Shawn Willden <shawn at willden.org> writes:
>
>> I think it would simplify things greatly to further constrain share
>> placement so that each server gets no more than one share, so that N,
>> H and K all refer to servers. I realize that there are some
>> interesting things that can be achieved by setting N to be a multiple
>> of the number of servers available, but in practice I don't think they
>> add enough value to offset the conceptual complexity.
>
> In a grid with a lot of servers S >> N, I can see your point.
>
> I have a private grid that had 3 servers, and now has 4. But I'm using
> 3/10 encoding, so that I can gradually add servers without having to
> torque the world around.
>
> I realize this is tricky business, but I've come to think that H isn't
> the right concept. What I really care about is knowing how many servers
> can fail without causing me to lose files. If I had 5 servers but was
> using 3/10 (to enable migration to larger-N grids), then optimal share
> placement would be 5x2, and I could lose 3/5 and reconstruct with any 2.
> But with 4x1 and 1x5, I could lose at most 2/5 while being sure of
> reconstruction. Both situations have H=5.
>
> It would be nice instead to have a way to express: place shares so that
> I am guaranteed to be able to reconstruct if any R (for reconstruction)
> servers which have a share have not failed.
>
> For S >> N, then perhaps R = N - H.
>
> For S << N, then H ensures that H servers have 1 share, whereas R will tend
> to ensure that that shares are spread evenly.
>
> As an example, consider 3/10 encoding with R=2 and S=5.
>
> Placing 2 shares each on 5 servers meets that goal, and placing 1 on 1,
> 3 on 1, and 2 on the last 3 also does. But any less good distribution
> does not. Here, there are many distributions which meet the same H
> (even if H=S=5!) but only some disitrbutions meet R=2.
>
>
> So, if it turns out I'm not confused, my proposal is to replace H with
> R.
>
>
>
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