[volunteergrid2-l] status report?
Jody Harris
jharris at harrisdev.com
Sat Feb 2 17:32:13 UTC 2013
I propose a sunset date of 31 March, 2013.
Comments? Suggestions?
Jody
think carefully
On Feb 2, 2013 10:24 AM, "Brad Rupp" <bradrupp at gmail.com> wrote:
> Jody,
>
> I couldn't agree more. Given the fact that no one is using it, I don't
> see the point of having a long sunset period.
>
> Brad
>
> On 1/31/2013 9:59 AM, Jody Harris wrote:
>
>> Based on the reports of those who have attempted to store files on the
>> grid and the failures they have experienced, it has become apparent that
>> VG2 is very "brittle" with just 15-17 nodes. For whatever reason some
>> nodes fail to accept shares at (what appears to be) random. When stores
>> are tested, Tahoe-LAFS throws warnings and stores are constantly in need
>> of maintenance even when all nodes are available.
>>
>> After closely watching the list for the last year and analyzing the
>> results my mental "estimatorinator" gives me a number of 35-50 nodes
>> before VG2 would be able to be used without the brittleness the users
>> are currently experiencing.
>>
>> Many of us have been evangelists for this project, but we have had very
>> little buy-in. Even some of our best supporters have simply shut down
>> nodes when they relocated for work because it was a propitious time to
>> gracefully exit the net without having to make excuses rather than
>> bothering to restart the node at their new location.
>>
>> I have hosted the introducer and run nodes for the last year and hosted
>> the wiki. I have no files stored on the grid. The steady stream of
>> reports from those who have have demonstrated that the grid is not
>> sufficiently stable. Yes it will reliably store files, but they will
>> require constant maintenance to prevent them from rapidly decaying.
>>
>> Since none of the grid members have reported success with the grid, and
>> all reports so far have shown the same level of frustration, I think
>> that we should start discussing a sunset on the project. I know that one
>> grid member I have visited with recently has already decided to remove a
>> node from the grid. I think that a formal discussion on closing down the
>> grid and setting a date is in the best interest of the community.
>>
>> jody
>>
>> ----
>> Ph. 575-208-4567
>> - Think carefully.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Zooko O'Whielacronx <zookog at gmail.com
>> <mailto:zookog at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Ruben! I'll have more questions about this later...
>>
>> Now, I see that Jody posted on G+:
>>
>> https://plus.google.com/**117452941536317929490/posts/**Y2Y5vLcvSnr<https://plus.google.com/117452941536317929490/posts/Y2Y5vLcvSnr>
>>
>> "many more nodes would be required for the grid to be fully usable"
>>
>> I find this surprising! Is the volunteergrid2 unusable?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Zooko
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