[tahoe-dev] barriers to using tahoe

[Jody Harris]

It also appears that both Dolphin and Nautilus will treat an ftp-mounted
tahoe volume as though it is tree'd simply because of the paths.

I can ask both filemanagers to "go up" in the tree, and they will happily
attempt to satisfy the request by pruning the tree to move up to the parent
even though the '..' parent link is not available to them. (Which makes
perfect sense from the implementation of the filemanager side.)

So, maybe the tree'd filesystem problem isn't really that much of a problem
after all?

jody
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- Contra mundum - "Against the world" (St. Athanasius)
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On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Jody Harris <imhavoc at gmail.com> wrote:

> Why can I create folders/directories through the sftp interface, but not
> write files?
>
> jody
>
> ----
> - Think carefully.
> - Contra mundum - "Against the world" (St. Athanasius)
> - Credo ut intelliga - "I believe that I may know" (St. Augustin of Hippo)
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Jody Harris <imhavoc at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Chris Palmer <chris at noncombatant.org>wrote:
>>
>>> Jody Harris writes:
>>>
>>> >   - "Those who understand what Tahoe is" (understanders),
>>> >   - And "Those who don't care" (users).
>>>
>>> I reject this dichotomy for practical reasons.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month#Conceptual_Integrity
>>>
>>> I suspect that bugs, unusability, insecurity, and unreliability go down
>>> as
>>> the gaps between the abstractions of UI, architecture, and implementation
>>> narrow. This usually results in the reduction of many (but not all) kinds
>>> of
>>> complexity up and down the abstraction stack.
>>>
>>> I also reject the dichotomy for ideological raisins. I refuse to accept
>>> that
>>> "users" are "stupid".
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/Inmates-Are-Running-Asylum/dp/0672316498
>>>
>>
>> I reject your rejection on grounds of good design practice.
>>
>> Not "stupid." Invalid. Expression "does not care" does not equate to
>> "stupid."
>>
>> Tools can be used on different levels.
>>
>> Analogy: Linux command line.
>>
>> It's there on every system, but the average user has no reason to ever see
>> it.
>>
>> It's not that the average user is stupid or incapable. It's just that they
>> are not going to invest the time to learn and master it. If they decide to,
>> it's readily available to them -- there are no artificial barriers.
>>
>> Analogy: web browser: view page source.
>>
>> Analogy: computers
>>   Users don't have to understand how they work to make good use of them.
>>
>> Analogy: Macintosh computers
>>
>>
>> Not every functionality needs to be exposed through every interface. Most
>> users are content that a task is completed per their expectations. Any
>> further information essentially "breaks" the system for them. Too much
>> information leads to mental buffer overflows.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>
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