[tahoe-dev] One Grid to Rule Them All

[stig atle]

Just pitching in here - hope it's Ok,
what they often do on private trackers with ratio is to give hourly
points based on
how many torrents you are seeding (not based on speed) but based on
number of torrents you have active,
and also allow to pay X for double points for X time, or simply pay to
get X GB added to your ratio.

This is often cheap, so for a user it's not a bad thing.

On 28.06.2013 12:33, til wrote:
> In relation to incentives, ostroms ideas, commons etc. i wonder how
> this scales to a "global" level, these kind of ideas seem to be
> conceived usually for a limited "group". My feeling is, and this is
> mainly from BT Tracker experience, that the ideas tend to fail if you
> have a VERY unequal distribution of resources, like we have in the
> world right now.  some people are still  connected to a non permanent
> ISDN line which they spends shitload of money (relative to their
> income) on, while others get 100mbit to their home for almost nothing.
> thats how it is right now and i don't think it is going to change soon.
>
> so if you translate that to a "ratio" system that BT Trackers have, it
> doesnt work: people with seedboxes, with superfast connections, snatch
> off all the ratio, because the network will prefer to download from
> their fast connection. so the ones that have slow connections will
> never get a decent ratio, because it takes them the longest to get a
> file and once they could seed back and gain ratio, everyone else has
> the file already.
>
> so i think the "incentives" for people to participate are kind of
> difficult to define. unless you exclude people who are not  able to
> "give back" sufficiently to the grid, like storage node uptime or
> connectivity, you will have a hard time "automatically" creating
> fairness for the users of such a thing. Or what do you imagine as an
> alternative system of "incentives" for participants?
>
> anyway, maybe there is more in ostroms writing on this, havent got
> really into her book yet.
>
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