[volunteergrid2-l] Backing up Files
Steve Dodson
steve.dodson at gmail.com
Tue Feb 7 22:54:31 UTC 2012
Thank you Shawn - this is exactly the sort of information I was looking
for (I was in mid-reply to Brad whenever this came through).
On 02/07/2012 03:47 PM, Shawn Willden wrote:
> The best way to handle that, I think, is to do it in small bites. The
> actual data files are stored as immutable files, and immutable uploads
> are idempotent... meaning that once a file is in the grid, subsequent
> attempts to upload it will succeed quickly when Tahoe notices that the
> file is already present.
>
> So, pick a reasonably-sized subdir and run tahoe backup on that. Then
> another, and another, etc. Once you've got everything uploaded, then
> you can run a top-level backup. That will be somewhat time-consuming
> because your Tahoe node will still have to do all of the computations on
> every file, but it'll go much faster because when it starts doing the
> actual upload if it finds that there are already enough shares present
> it won't bother with uploading.
>
> After your first big top-level backup, then you can re-run the backup
> whenever, and it should be pretty fast. Tahoe backup keeps a local
> database so it can recognize when files haven't change and skip them
> (completely skip them, not encode-then-notice-it's-unnecessary).
>
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Brad Rupp <bradrupp at gmail.com
> <mailto:bradrupp at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Oh boy, I definitely have more data than can be uploaded in a few
> days. That is part of the fun I am facing with getting this done.
>
> Brad
>
>
> On 2/7/2012 2:11 PM, Shawn Willden wrote:
>
> For relatively small amounts of data, tahoe backup works fine.
> If you
> have more than can reasonably be uploaded in a few days, you can
> still
> use tahoe backup, but it's trickier.
>
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Brad Rupp <bradrupp at gmail.com
> <mailto:bradrupp at gmail.com>
> <mailto:bradrupp at gmail.com <mailto:bradrupp at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
> I am curious how everyone is backing up their data to the
> grid. I
> assume most people are using tahoe backup, but I'm wondering if
> there are other solutions that have been hacked together.
>
> As for me, I'm just getting started on this. My server
> going up in
> smoke last month has caused a sense of urgency regarding
> backups.
> Of course, that is why I am still working on this a month
> later... :)
>
> My preferred backup method would be to push a weekly
> snapshot to the
> grid. I can live with losing a weeks worth of data and I
> don't need
> versioned backups. Basically the last weekly snapshot is
> all that I
> need. Now to make it happen...
>
> Regards,
>
> Brad
>
>
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