[volunteergrid2-l] status report?

[Brad Rupp]

Since nobody is using it, I don't see the need to keep all the nodes 
around for two months.  But I'm OK with it if that is the consensus.

Brad

On 2/2/2013 10:32 AM, Jody Harris wrote:
> I propose a sunset date of 31 March, 2013.
>
> Comments? Suggestions?
>
> Jody
>
> think carefully
>
> On Feb 2, 2013 10:24 AM, "Brad Rupp" <bradrupp at gmail.com
> <mailto:bradrupp at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Jody,
>
>     I couldn't agree more.  Given the fact that no one is using it, I
>     don't see the point of having a long sunset period.
>
>     Brad
>
>     On 1/31/2013 9:59 AM, Jody Harris wrote:
>
>         Based on the reports of those who have attempted to store files
>         on the
>         grid and the failures they have experienced, it has become
>         apparent that
>         VG2 is very "brittle" with just 15-17 nodes. For whatever reason
>         some
>         nodes fail to accept shares at (what appears to be) random. When
>         stores
>         are tested, Tahoe-LAFS throws warnings and stores are constantly
>         in need
>         of maintenance even when all nodes are available.
>
>         After closely watching the list for the last year and analyzing the
>         results my mental "estimatorinator" gives me a number of 35-50 nodes
>         before VG2 would be able to be used without the brittleness the
>         users
>         are currently experiencing.
>
>         Many of us have been evangelists for this project, but we have
>         had very
>         little buy-in. Even some of our best supporters have simply shut
>         down
>         nodes when they relocated for work because it was a propitious
>         time to
>         gracefully exit the net without having to make excuses rather than
>         bothering to restart the node at their new location.
>
>         I have hosted the introducer and run nodes for the last year and
>         hosted
>         the wiki. I have no files stored on the grid. The steady stream of
>         reports from those who have have demonstrated that the grid is not
>         sufficiently stable. Yes it will reliably store files, but they will
>         require constant maintenance to prevent them from rapidly decaying.
>
>         Since none of the grid members have reported success with the
>         grid, and
>         all reports so far have shown the same level of frustration, I think
>         that we should start discussing a sunset on the project. I know
>         that one
>         grid member I have visited with recently has already decided to
>         remove a
>         node from the grid. I think that a formal discussion on closing
>         down the
>         grid and setting a date is in the best interest of the community.
>
>         jody
>
>         ----
>         Ph. 575-208-4567 <tel:575-208-4567>
>         - Think carefully.
>
>
>         On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Zooko O'Whielacronx
>         <zookog at gmail.com <mailto:zookog at gmail.com>
>         <mailto:zookog at gmail.com <mailto:zookog at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
>              Thanks, Ruben! I'll have more questions about this later...
>
>              Now, I see that Jody posted on G+:
>
>         https://plus.google.com/__117452941536317929490/posts/__Y2Y5vLcvSnr
>         <https://plus.google.com/117452941536317929490/posts/Y2Y5vLcvSnr>
>
>              "many more nodes would be required for the grid to be fully
>         usable"
>
>              I find this surprising! Is the volunteergrid2 unusable?
>
>              Regards,
>
>              Zooko
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