[volunteergrid2-l] status report?
Dmitriy Kazimirov
dmitriy.kazimirov at viorsan.com
Sun Feb 3 05:17:27 UTC 2013
+1 with me
if it's needed. let's keep nodes up. but it's sad that this happen.
2013/2/3 Aaron Drew <aarond10 at gmail.com>
> +1 for the grace period - just to give anyone a chance to download stuff
> if they need to.
> On 3 Feb 2013 15:47, "Brad Rupp" <bradrupp at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Since nobody is using it, I don't see the need to keep all the nodes
>> around for two months. But I'm OK with it if that is the consensus.
>>
>> Brad
>>
>> On 2/2/2013 10:32 AM, Jody Harris wrote:
>>
>>> I propose a sunset date of 31 March, 2013.
>>>
>>> Comments? Suggestions?
>>>
>>> Jody
>>>
>>> think carefully
>>>
>>> On Feb 2, 2013 10:24 AM, "Brad Rupp" <bradrupp at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:bradrupp at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Jody,
>>>
>>> I couldn't agree more. Given the fact that no one is using it, I
>>> don't see the point of having a long sunset period.
>>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>>> On 1/31/2013 9:59 AM, Jody Harris wrote:
>>>
>>> Based on the reports of those who have attempted to store files
>>> on the
>>> grid and the failures they have experienced, it has become
>>> apparent that
>>> VG2 is very "brittle" with just 15-17 nodes. For whatever reason
>>> some
>>> nodes fail to accept shares at (what appears to be) random. When
>>> stores
>>> are tested, Tahoe-LAFS throws warnings and stores are constantly
>>> in need
>>> of maintenance even when all nodes are available.
>>>
>>> After closely watching the list for the last year and analyzing
>>> the
>>> results my mental "estimatorinator" gives me a number of 35-50
>>> nodes
>>> before VG2 would be able to be used without the brittleness the
>>> users
>>> are currently experiencing.
>>>
>>> Many of us have been evangelists for this project, but we have
>>> had very
>>> little buy-in. Even some of our best supporters have simply shut
>>> down
>>> nodes when they relocated for work because it was a propitious
>>> time to
>>> gracefully exit the net without having to make excuses rather
>>> than
>>> bothering to restart the node at their new location.
>>>
>>> I have hosted the introducer and run nodes for the last year and
>>> hosted
>>> the wiki. I have no files stored on the grid. The steady stream
>>> of
>>> reports from those who have have demonstrated that the grid is
>>> not
>>> sufficiently stable. Yes it will reliably store files, but they
>>> will
>>> require constant maintenance to prevent them from rapidly
>>> decaying.
>>>
>>> Since none of the grid members have reported success with the
>>> grid, and
>>> all reports so far have shown the same level of frustration, I
>>> think
>>> that we should start discussing a sunset on the project. I know
>>> that one
>>> grid member I have visited with recently has already decided to
>>> remove a
>>> node from the grid. I think that a formal discussion on closing
>>> down the
>>> grid and setting a date is in the best interest of the community.
>>>
>>> jody
>>>
>>> ----
>>> Ph. 575-208-4567 <tel:575-208-4567>
>>> - Think carefully.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Zooko O'Whielacronx
>>> <zookog at gmail.com <mailto:zookog at gmail.com>
>>> <mailto:zookog at gmail.com <mailto:zookog at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks, Ruben! I'll have more questions about this later...
>>>
>>> Now, I see that Jody posted on G+:
>>>
>>> https://plus.google.com/__**117452941536317929490/posts/__**
>>> Y2Y5vLcvSnr<https://plus.google.com/__117452941536317929490/posts/__Y2Y5vLcvSnr>
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>>> Y2Y5vLcvSnr<https://plus.google.com/117452941536317929490/posts/Y2Y5vLcvSnr>
>>> >
>>>
>>> "many more nodes would be required for the grid to be fully
>>> usable"
>>>
>>> I find this surprising! Is the volunteergrid2 unusable?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Zooko
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