[volunteergrid2-l] Slashdot post

[Eugen Leitl]

On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 01:32:54PM -0400, Ted Rolle, Jr. wrote:
> First, we need to give and expect the same level of honor and integrity
> as the CIA and NSA.

Meh, Tor nodes and remailers run on less trust. If the system can't
handle a few bad apples it has definitely a problem.
 
> Dirty pool, but how about going on their Facebook pages.  If they don't
> have a Facebook page, that's an automatic acceptance.  They already know
> about security.
> 
> Dweeb check:  everyone reads the application.  Majority vote grants
> access.  If this proves to be impractical, assume innocence before
> guilt.  Same with the Facebook check.
> 
> Innocence before guilt?  How foreign is this concept in today's society.
> 
> We need to be as helpful as we can to get these new nodes up and
> running.  Lots of hand-holding.  Granting access to this mailing list
> but no introducer furl.  Give good settings for needed, happy, an total
> based on the current nodes on VG2.  These numbers may be a moving
> target, especially as we gain new nodes.

I think the primary requirement is uptime reliability. Yo-yo nodes are in
nobody's interest.
 
> Thanks,
> Ted.
> 
> On 03/31/2012 12:15 PM, Shawn Willden wrote:
> > There's a slashdot article this morning about backup tools and
> > techniques.  I posted about VG2.  My post was an early response to the
> > article, and I expect it will get modded up to a 5 and be fairly near
> > the top of the comments, so a lot of people will probably read it.
> >
> > Assuming we're about to get a flood of list member applications,
> > asking to become grid member applications, we should probably decide
> > how we're going to handle it.
> >
> > IMO, our "policy" limit of 20 nodes (originally suggested by Zooko) is
> > too low.  In terms of the technology, there's no reason our grid
> > couldn't grow to 100 nodes or larger.  The limit is the social

I understand 100 nodes is the scaling limit with today's codebase.

> > aspect... at present, maintaining a well-functioning grid requires
> > that the members of the grid exercise some honor and integrity,
> > abiding by their commitments to keep their nodes up and running, and
> > to consume grid storage fairly.  So far, that hasn't been a problem as
> > far as I can tell, and I don't see any reason why we can't go beyond
> > 20 members... but I do think we'll need to vet them pretty carefully.
> >
> > To date, we haven't done much.  We've just asked people to make an
> > e-mail commitment to abide by the policies and called it good.  But
> > we've also had members join in ones and twos, and I wouldn't be
> > surprised if the slashdot post gets us 10 or more new people wishing
> > to join.  Perhaps even more than that.
> >
> > So, before we allow these people to join, any suggestions as to how we
> > can check up on them?

I might be a bozo, but ask Zooko whether he would trust me with a node
or a couple.